OK, I hate to belabor this point yet again. Your other gloves have both the "knukle" circumference measure (which I assume is with fingers spread out as far as possible) and generic sizes (S, M, L, XL). This set of gloves is sized merely generically, though.||A table or list with correspondences between the two standards (for Men as well as for Women) would be a great help! Another thing is that fabricators vary: It may still prove "hit or miss," nonetheless, and we always appreciate great tips from customers as to buying smaller or larger than indicated. ||Becoming clear ("crystal") on this, especially with fabricators, likely would lessen returns, aggravation, and fabricator costs. Usually, I purchase medium gloves. Nonetheless, given a useful customer tip here, I'll try, first, going one size up with this--thanks!