“Great quality, but short in the rise”

“Excellent qulity and styling as typical of Cloudveil. Excellent materials. Durable, but not too heavy. I ordered XL. I also own the Cloudveil Koven pant which fits wonderfully with plenty of room. The 4 pines seems to be short in the rise. It sits lower on the hips and there was no way an XL was gonig to be comfortable around the waist for me at that level. Perhaps designed to ride lower for snowboarders. I still gave it three starts as the pant is otherwise excellent.”