“great outer layer”

“These are great for ANY outdoor sport you would need an extra bottom layer. They are roomy enough two wear a thick baselayer. Actually the fabric feels weird against your skin without a baselayer so i don't thik i would wear them without one. The fabric has stretch which is awesome. I mainly use them for cc sking and running. And they are basic enough to run errands in without looking too sloppy. I just wish there was another inch to the 30" inseam.”