I never learn. I keep hoping the "specially made" products will be great for the price but sadly they are not. These shorts are from the Limited. The fabric is a cheap polyester with no stretch. The sizing is extremely small. I ordered an 8 but I don't think I would squeeze into a 12/14. They seem more like a junior's cut. If you are young, thin, and don't mind a super low rise, then these may work for you.