Not a top layer-Beware

Verified Buyer Reviewed by Meritlane from LA,CA on Saturday, March 18, 2017
The description doesn't mention that while these are cycling shorts, they are for under other shorts, not on their own. I wear bibs very often but have several non bibs that I wear under Mt bike shorts or my motorcycle pants. These are perfect for those applications as the extra venting panels which make them inaporpriate as an outer layer help ventilation for their intended use.